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Post by Empress Palpatine on Jul 24, 2004 19:05:09 GMT
Lately, I've been reading a lot about Hindu gods and the various practices that surround them. In their pantheon, they have fierce gods and benign gods. All are a part of the whole. The dark and the light are worshipped together.
Sith type gods would be Shiva and Kali. Shiva is the destroyer. Kali is also a destroyer, and she is shown as looking quite scary with skulls for a necklace and a bloody sword. Her worshippers had a very Sith outlook.
I equate Sith with the Tantric path and the Jedi with the Yogic. Yogis try to divorce themselves from their negative emotions, desires and passions. Tantrists believe it is best to fully express all of them, even the dark feelings. These two groups have existed for centuries. I think the Sith and Jedi fit pretty exactly. Both are legitimate spiritual paths and will bring enlightenment to the follower.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Post by Darth Sidious on Jul 25, 2004 14:19:33 GMT
I cant say that ive thought much along those lines, but from what i remember of those from school and other places, i think that what you have described fits, if not perfectly with them, then extremely close to it
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Aug 8, 2004 20:20:09 GMT
Versions of Sith can be found in many religions. The Norse god Odin acts alot like Palpatine or Sidious. He even looks alot like him and is associated with the dark.
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Post by sindo on May 26, 2005 21:31:54 GMT
I believe that the sith religion is it's own. The hindu gods speak of peace and prosperity while the sith code states that there is no peace only anger!
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Post by Darth Sidious on May 27, 2005 20:26:05 GMT
I believe that the sith religion is it's own. The hindu gods speak of peace and prosperity while the sith code states that there is no peace only anger! some of them are as you speak of. others are not
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Post by taranakin on May 29, 2005 17:57:33 GMT
I think, metaphorically speaking, that Shiva is a wonderful representation of the entire Force. Shiva is both the Destroyer, and in a large sense, the creator, since he/she is the force that makes room for the creative impulse. Shiva the Destroyer, Brahma the Creator, and Vishnu the Preserver, are, in a large since one Great Deity; one Holy Trinity representing the "Force" of All-That-Is. Shiva, as one representation or manifestation of the Trinity, beautifully embodies all that is Dark, AND all that is Light.
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Post by sindo on May 29, 2005 18:27:26 GMT
The sith do not wish to preserve though. So only some of the gods could represent the darkside of the force. And that god is mostly Shiva because of his/her destructive power. Don't forget in the code of the sith it is stated that we are the destroyers of worlds we do not preserve or create life we only destroy it.
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Post by Darth Sidious on May 29, 2005 22:56:52 GMT
The sith do not wish to preserve though. So only some of the gods could represent the darkside of the force. And that god is mostly Shiva because of his/her destructive power. Don't forget in the code of the sith it is stated that we are the destroyers of worlds we do not preserve or create life we only destroy it. true, but if you do nothing more than to destroy life then you can have no real future, no real power. there is a fine balance on all such things
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Post by sindo on May 30, 2005 1:41:28 GMT
Yes but that is why t6here are things weaker in life than the sith. They exist soley to create and preserve the life that we totally ignore or destroy.
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Post by Darth Sidious on May 30, 2005 3:26:26 GMT
In a sense your opinion would be correct Lord Sindo, however, as i have previously stated, i do not entirely share that point of view. you have a right to your own opinion, as do I, and all others
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Post by sindo on May 30, 2005 20:05:20 GMT
Correct and I do appreciate the opinions of others or the world would be boring and pointless
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Post by sushi on Jun 6, 2005 6:31:51 GMT
Hmm...An interesting point arises...
Perhaps, Lucas was inspired by some of these religions you all speak of, in his creating of the force. So then in that light, a belief in Sithism or Jedi'ism for that matter, is not a fascination of fiction gone too far, rather it is interpretation of religion already on this earth.
Kinda like how you have a skin for say windows media player, the media player works the same, just looks different, looks better...
We are in that sense, skinning religions to our own morals.
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Post by Darth Sidious on Jun 6, 2005 21:24:08 GMT
wow, very interesting point, and it definately makes a lot more sense than any other explanation
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Post by sushi on Jun 6, 2005 22:27:45 GMT
Well I do put a lot of thought into it lol
I was just looking for a way to explain Sithism so it seemed more than just a bunch of silver screen fanatics going overboard.
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Post by sindo on Jun 7, 2005 0:36:56 GMT
And you did it perfectly. And I appreciate you trying to point out that we are not just a bunch of fanatics.
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Post by sushi on Jun 7, 2005 5:49:32 GMT
Well as fanatics go, I don't see too many among the Sithists. I saw one on this site but he only had one post lol. Most of the fanatics are Jedi and usually they're just the ones who walk around in robes with plastic swords saying "girlfriends are against the jedi code" when in reality they can't get any in the first place, Jedi or not.
Like we've said so many times before, Jedi are pathetic scum.
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Post by sindo on Jun 7, 2005 19:57:53 GMT
True and it is true that most of the fanatics are jedi. I mean I don't even have the original three star wars on DVD.
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Post by sushi on Jun 8, 2005 4:55:55 GMT
Exactly, I have even heard of people who haven't even seen any of the movies become Sithist.
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Post by sindo on Jun 8, 2005 19:49:21 GMT
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Post by Darth Sidious on Jun 8, 2005 22:55:01 GMT
thats very true. i didnt realise there was anyone who was into the sithist stuff who hadnt seen the films though... good on them for taking the initiative imo. if you dont want toagrue about it, just dont, there are ways out of it, although that does depend on the kind of person you are talking to at the time
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Post by sindo on Jun 9, 2005 19:27:59 GMT
Yeah some people are just dying to prove that they follow the superior religion.So they argue all the time.
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Post by Darth Sidious on Jun 10, 2005 2:40:48 GMT
and you did it excellently. the problem is though (sorry to pick holes :S ) that unfortunately a lot of people would still see it as silverscreen fanatics going overboard. closed-minded bastards :S
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Post by sindo on Jun 10, 2005 19:14:12 GMT
Unfortunayely that is true.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Jun 11, 2005 19:41:34 GMT
I think Sithism is a rediscovery of some very old and forgotton religions. These are religions that understood the significance of darkness as well as light. The problem is that to adopt these old religions in the old wrappings would seem weird in our technological world (sacrificing goats to Kali, etc.) When it comes to religions, no idea is truly new. It is only reborn in a new wrapper to suit the needs of the age. Ours is a dark age which is ripe for the Sith.
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Post by sindo on Jun 11, 2005 21:17:44 GMT
Yeah but trying to find what different religions we have picked apart to make our own is very difficult.
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Post by sushi on Jun 12, 2005 19:19:22 GMT
imho, sithism is different for every follower
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Post by sindo on Jun 12, 2005 21:30:52 GMT
True that is what is great about this religion. You don't have to follow all aspects. You can actually choose what parts of the religion to follow.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Jun 14, 2005 2:31:08 GMT
That is exactly what is good about it, you have a choice. It is between you and the Force. There are no commandments, no absolute authorities, no infallible scripture. One only studies religions and gleans from them what they find useful.
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Post by darthhumper on Jun 20, 2005 8:59:34 GMT
is there any sith groups in Australia?
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Post by sindo on Jun 22, 2005 1:53:24 GMT
I believe so.
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