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Post by Darth Sidious on Nov 14, 2005 23:17:06 GMT
from the sound of it i guess im glad its only the crossfire im getting  EP: what do you mean ture in england? |
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Nov 15, 2005 19:32:50 GMT
Oops..typo. I meant to ask is the same true in England?
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Post by Darth Sidious on Nov 16, 2005 0:33:25 GMT
Ah, suspected as much..
In answer to your question, to the best of my knowledge no, not at all.
I dont get the chance to keep up with the news as much as i should, but it's been a long, long time since i have come across anything majorly religious based in any news program.
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Post by Azazel on Nov 16, 2005 9:39:58 GMT
I cant really speak about England, because i don't live there, but as far as I know, there aren´t many, if any, religious stresses in Europe,except in Ireland, mainly because the catholic religion has the main share of the population under its cloth, and looks like its getting more adepts every year. Don't really know why that happens. In America, from a Europeans point of view, looks like people got angry on all that pedophile thing.
of course they have a good reason to be angry.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Nov 16, 2005 14:50:03 GMT
That was basically it. A series of lawsuits happened which resulted in a financial blow to the Catholic church. Some Catholic churches actually closed as a result. Some former Catholics switched over to Protestant because they felt ashamed of that association. One news show said that they have a shortage of people going into the priesthood here. It said in some areas they only have one priest that services more than one town. In some areas certain local Catholic congregations come to odds with the Vatican. American Catholics seem to have more rubs with the authority of the Vatican. The problem seems to be that the Vatican's law conflicts with American law, especially as regards pedophilia. Why the Vatican would permit and excuse a legally and morally reprehensible act is beyond me. Their attitude seems to be that it is a mere misdemeanor.
On the other hand, the Catholic church still holds a great deal of power here. There are an awful lot of political offices held by them. So it seems they are both weak and strong at the same time.
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Post by lordrevan on Nov 17, 2005 1:44:26 GMT
How many of you besides the six that already pleadged their alligence to me to destroy the catholics will join me.
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Post by Azazel on Nov 18, 2005 13:51:37 GMT
They are weak because they are humans trying to behave like gods.
they are strong because with religion comes power, and power atracts peolpe.Beeing the main religion in the continent that colonize half of the world, its natural that the tentacles reached so far and wide.
But as the tree gets bigger, its more prone to fall on a storm.The storm the Sith will bring.
I pledge alligence to no one.Im a ronin Sith.
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Post by lordrevan on Nov 19, 2005 14:54:58 GMT
will you at least help the campain?
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Post by Azazel on Nov 21, 2005 13:47:18 GMT
of corse i will
my pleasure!
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Post by sindo on Nov 21, 2005 22:18:48 GMT
I can't understand why we were talking about destroying the catholic religion. If we wish to be respected as a religion then we must respect others.
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Post by Darth Sidious on Nov 22, 2005 23:56:39 GMT
Sindo, thats a part of how i feel about such as well. If you dont respect different people/religions/whatever, they qwont hold any for you. lordrevan: youve come rather a long way from "i have nothing against catholics... what do you guys think?" havent you?  |
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Post by Darth Cassus on Nov 23, 2005 22:03:52 GMT
revan and azazel u guys are crazy u have been completely clouded by a relgion thats is not a threat. If u think logiclly u would see that. Use those brains and think about your actions! Then u can act if u trully think there a thret after that then u can attack them frankly u 2 i dont give a dam n just think first.
And i will not join u
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Post by sindo on Nov 25, 2005 22:33:32 GMT
I will not join you either.
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Post by Azazel on Nov 28, 2005 14:40:37 GMT
Fellow Sith.Destroying is a much more wide definition than just military actions.
One can destroy a thing by simply exposing its weaknessess to the people.
The same with Catholics. How do you plan to become a major force without disrupting the earth´s main religion influence ?
No my friends, more than just a action by violent methods, we should expose this religion.
If you dont see it as a threat, please, explain me why.
Or you whant other to make the overthone, keep the blame if something goes wrong, and share the profits if it goes right ?
Or is are your Sith believes tinted with ancient influences ?
Just would like to know....
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Post by Darth Cassus on Nov 28, 2005 20:29:44 GMT
You do what u want kill the catholics if u like but I wont have any part of it
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Post by sindo on Nov 28, 2005 20:32:59 GMT
The catholics pose no threat to our growing religion. We shouldn't be wasting our time exposing them. We should spend our time getting more recognition as a religion ourselves. The best way if any to beat the catholics is to become bigger then they are.
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Post by Darth Cassus on Nov 28, 2005 21:03:21 GMT
I agree with this philosophy just wait till they come to you
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Post by Azazel on Nov 29, 2005 12:05:50 GMT
its not a question of killing, never was.
If you really think you can overthrone the catholics just by waiting that the people will come our way free willingly, better think twice, or have a life span of ...1500 years, more or less.
Tell me wich religion havent imposed itself by force...only the budists, but those are true peacefull people.
We are Sith. Ok, you are diplomatic Sith, i guess thats a new brand, or even better, peacefull sith, that even sometimes diplomacy has to give its place to force.
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Post by Darth Cassus on Nov 29, 2005 20:09:12 GMT
First of all its not a new thing for sith to be diplomatic *cough* Dooku sidious
Second of all it 200 years after jesus died for the catholic faith to get a stong hold on things but I know we can't live that long which is why we need to do it faster and if u have a way to do that then dont be shy to tell
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Post by Azazel on Nov 30, 2005 14:36:56 GMT
And you think is faster just plain expecting people to embrace sith religion as you think it should be done?
We can speed things up by making the actions i propose, of undermining Christians faith, not plain light saber things away.
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Post by Darth Cassus on Nov 30, 2005 20:00:34 GMT
hmm sound like it could work but how are you going to undermine them?
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Post by Azazel on Dec 2, 2005 13:29:36 GMT
Very simple, just show the people, by way of actions, and not by words, that the catholics are fakes, and that theyre beliefes are false.
The way to do all this, well, it wont be easy, help needed.
Anyone wanna help ?
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Post by Darth Cassus on Dec 2, 2005 20:15:30 GMT
Not now mybe some day in the future though until then no
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Post by Azazel on Dec 6, 2005 9:59:46 GMT
Fear is a mind killer...
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Post by lordrevan on Oct 21, 2006 11:04:59 GMT
I am "for now" just trying to convert them. if that does not work then more actions will be taken!!!
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