Was Anakin Darth Plagueis grand plan?

[Darth Rageous]

Heres what info I have...

The revelation of Plagueis's abilities has launched debate among fans, some of whom speculate that the Sith may have had a hand in the creation of Anakin Skywalker, though this is never explicitly stated in the movies. Indeed, George Lucas has also consistently stated that Anakin was created by "the Force itself." Whether Anakin was created by the Force's will to fulfill an ancient prophecy and destroy the Sith, or because of Plagueis' evil intentions, casts the Star Wars saga in different light, philosophically - although the mythological motif of the mysterious virgin birth technically still exists in both circumstances, since neither involves human contact or a natural father. Even though Plagueis died a long time before Anakin's birth, there are persistent speculations that there may have been a connection. Recently, in a Rolling Stone interview (RS 975), Lucas indicated that the issue was left deliberately mysterious in the Star Wars prequels, and that it's up to the audience to decide for themselves how Anakin was created - other Lucasfilm sources have confirmed that for now, the issue intentionally remains a mystery. Some believe Darth Sidious himself used the teachings taught to him by Plagueis to create Anakin. However, Palpatine appears to take no interest in Anakin until after the Battle of Naboo, despite meeting him first on Coruscant. The official Star Wars website reveals that creating life and preventing death arise from the same ability, and since Palpatine admits to Anakin that he cannot prevent death, it seems highly unlikely that he can create life, and therefore could not have created Anakin. However, the complete truth remains a mystery.

Can anyone add there input. More Plagueis information is rumored to be in the new live action Star Wars show coming out in 2006

[Empress Palpatine]

My theory has always been that a certain politician from Naboo had an affair which he needed to cover up because it would look scandalous to the prim and proper Naboo voters. Palpatine could have been no less wild than Bill Clinton in some ways....How convenient it would have been to sell the woman into slavery on some remote planet that no one will ever find. Tatooine is the place to hide all sorts of secrets. Shmi probably thought of Palpatine as a nice gentleman when she met him. For fear of her life and her son's saftey, she probably made up some mysterious sounding cover story about a virgin birth. It was probably a half truth since it was true that the Force was very strong in Anakin. This may be because Palpatine is actually his dad, so he'd inherit a big midiclorian count. Well, that is my 2 cents of the gossip.

[Mrs. Darth Vader]

The answer in my opinion is no because Darth Plagueis was long dead when Anakin was born. To me the age of Darth Maul proves it. Maul is 20 and had 10 years on Anakin so Darth Plagueis had to be dead for 10 years. My opinion is Anakin was Palpatines plan and dream because for a Sith Master Darth Sidious really liked Darth Vader. Something had to be the first cause of that bonding.

[Darth Rageous]

I don't why... but, I think that Plagueis had something to do with anakins conception. For example, when Palpatine explain to anakin about his master and how he could create life with the force. It was if Plagueis plan and create anakin for the destruction of the jedi, and palpatine knew about it. He let the jedi train him so that later he can corrupt him and save himself the trouble of training him.

In th Phamtom Menace, in the very end of the movie he tells anakin, we wiil be watching your career very closely. So its almost that he knew about anakin all along, and Plagueis creating him through the force.
This is my opinion.

[Mrs. Darth Vader]

But what about what Palpatine saying that Plagueis tought him everything that Plagueis knew so I killed him in his sleep. Couldent Palpatine then do the plan after killing Darth Plagueis? At least that is what I think because Palpatine out minuverd Plagueis. Of course Lucas ment for this to happen fans to guess for years.

[Lord Exar Kun]

i agree with Darth Rageous on this. Plagueis may have taught his knowledge to Palpentine, but only Palpentine knows for sure. perhaps he learned, perhaps he did not. he said he needed Anakin's help to achieve the power that Plagueis had. Plagueis could see the future and could have very well used his power to "create" Anakin.

[Mrs. Darth Vader]

Exar Kun what about the 18 minut gap? there is some distance between the death of Plagueis and the birth of Anakin.

[Darth Rageous]

What 18 gap you are talkin about please explain yourself.

[Lord Exar Kun]

there is a gap between the death of Plagueis and the birth of Anakin. i don't understand the 18 minute gap though. there are numerous reasons why there was a gap. my opinion is that the power to create life through the force is not just a matter of snapping your fingers and "poof" there is life. Plagueis had to find the right person and the right time. he could have easily saw through the force that the Republic was destined to fall. if Anakin was born before or just after Plagueis died, then perhaps he would have become a full fledged Jedi and not fall to the Sith. i think that Plagueis could have easily overcome the gap between his death and the birth of Anakin.

[Darth Rageous]

Where did this gap come from?

[Empress Palpatine]

Is it ever said just how one creates life? There is the usual way of course, but this sounds like something different. It isn't mixing up the right DNA in a lab sort of thing, sort of a "Boys from Brazil" deal? (The movie where Dr.Josef Mengele clones Hitler in order to have him reborn-starring Gregory Peck and Sir Lawrence Olivier and Steve Gutenberg). Was it pure wizardry?

[Darth Sidious]

i for one have seen no proof that ploagueis was dead before anakin was born...does anyone have anything conclusive on this?

also, if he did die before anakin's birth, that doesnt mean he didnt influence the force in whatever way necessary to create anakin before his death.

[Darth Rageous]

I think people are assuming way too much.

[Lord Exar Kun]

i agree completely with Darth Sidious. i apologize if my last post was confusing, but Darth Sidious said what i wanted to. even if Plagueis died before Anakin was born, he could have very easily used the Force to control the factors needed to create Anakin.

[bradi]

Another side of the debate, is did Darth Sidious use his Sith powers and kill Padme from a distance? This seems very likely to me, more so than Darth Plagius planting the Choosen One on a remote sandball like Tatooine. Although I waffle on that issue. I believe Plagius DID do this,but it seems like a weird place to put the Messiah or Anti-Messiah depending on your point of view.

[Darth Rageous]

Bradi please explain your theory on Sidious killing Padme.

[bradi]

Well, I don't think it's out of the question that Darth Sidious could have used his knowledge of the Dark Side to instill in Anakin the strange prescient nightmares he was having over Padme's death. This was the kernel that germinated into Anakin's un-doing. During the ending of Revenge of the Sith, Darth Vader chokes Padme', but only briefly. She was certainly alive enough to give birth to Luke and Leia. Then something strange happens. In a technologically advanced culture such as the Republic, she suddenly ...just dies. No way. I can't swallow that women would die in childbirth like that. My speculation is that the Emperor used his power to kill her from a distance. It's the only credible explanation I can think of. This really sent Darth Vader over the edge, which was the Emperor's plan of course.

Nooooooooo!

During this, the Emperor is pleased as punch.

[Darth Millennial]

I like that more than the corny "died of a broken heart" explanation...

[Darth Rageous]

Well, as corny as this sounds... she did die of a broken heart. Everybody knows this. Although I see your trying to rationallize with her death as if the whole broken heart thing doesn't work for you, but we're are SITH and people can die the way we want them to.